VIDEO/PDF: Down The Rabbit Hole

May 21, 2008

7th Son Vidcast logoJ.C. Hutchins discovered an unusual envelope in his mail today … and inside was an item so mysterious and perplexing, he had to document its contents for you. It appears to be a “rabbit hole” — an intriguing gateway into a viral promotion or Alternate Reality Game.

J.C. has no idea who sent this envelope, and is stymied by its encrypted contents. Watch the video and examine the PDF in this post (found below; look for the “EBOOK PDF” icon) and see if YOU can decode its secrets. You can also find hi-res photos of the envelope’s contents on J.C.’s Flickr page: http://flickr.com/photos/jchutchins/

Please spread the word about this mystery (J.C. recommends the “Share This” feature at the end of this post). And feel free to post your thoughts (or decryption progress) here in the comments. He may have been the “first to find” this rabbit hole … but when it comes to its secrets, J.C. doesn’t want to be the last to know!

UPDATE: Thanks to you amazing people, we’ve tracked down several other recipients of the letter, and determined that those letters are similar — but not identical — to the one J.C. received. Find out more here:

 
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128 Responses to “VIDEO/PDF: Down The Rabbit Hole”

  1. RobinInSeoul on May 21st, 2008 9:17 pm

    The vertical script looks like Hieroglyphics. The ones on the “seal” look like several letters superimposed on one another. hmmm . . .

  2. Kevin on May 21st, 2008 10:24 pm

    Interestingly enough, one of my Google searches turned up this link…

    http://www.thetruthexcavated.com/

    Hmmm….?

  3. DAVe on May 21st, 2008 10:25 pm

    It does look like stylistic Hieroglyphics or reversed image

  4. Merlyn on May 21st, 2008 10:27 pm

    The fact it was on rice paper tells me that it should overlay something that will combine with the current page and the logo might be a viewer that you would look at the letters with

  5. J.C. Hutchins on May 21st, 2008 10:33 pm

    @Kevin: Hush, now. That URL’s been up for two years. It’s not a part of this — and I’m not pulling a fast one on the community. :)

    @Merlyn: I LIKE the way you’re thinking!

    I think the key to this is the red seal on the page, and the characters there. The black text is the punchline … but the red characters are the setup. Let’s focus our attention there!

  6. Zach on May 21st, 2008 10:57 pm

    Looking at the black letters, they remind me of Japanese writing - specifically hiragana.

  7. jiglenn on May 21st, 2008 11:08 pm

    Red seal is the key looks like one sentence. The text looks like several overlayed letters with some extras.

  8. Edward G Talbot on May 21st, 2008 11:11 pm

    JC, those images on the red circle seem like they are representative of human figures doing things. Not sure where that gets us, but it’s the only thing that occurred to me. Well, aside from the fact that maybe one of your fans works in law enforcement and you could dust the inner envelope and the rice paper for fingerprints and run it through AFIS :)

  9. BigDP on May 21st, 2008 11:22 pm

    is the red seal wax, or is it manufactured plastic? Is it real rice paper or is it the mass produced $$ plastic paper? Can lead to how big of a “hole” this is

  10. Mad Marv on May 21st, 2008 11:23 pm

    Anyone want to try tracking down that serial number on the postage stamp? 104894819006. I couldn’t find anything w/ a quick Google search. If someone has an account w/ stamps.com, maybe they can shed some light on how that service works. That “tb” logo must be part of someone’s stamps.com account.

    BTW, shouldn’t there be a post marking over the stamp?

  11. Kristin Mayo on May 21st, 2008 11:23 pm

    The red letters do appear to be English letters, superimposed over each other, made to be read in at least 4 separate directions…. Once with the red band on the top right to left, a second time, from left to right (letters are mirror imaged) a third time with the red bandto the left of the letters and the fourth with the band below the script. The black script, I’m thinking is meant to be sliced into 2 long strips and wrapped around a dowel or pencil, in order to be deciphered, perhaps with additional details in encoded in the red script.

    It will take some time to work out, but that would be my guesses. Time to grab a scratch pad and some scissors.

  12. Mad Marv on May 21st, 2008 11:44 pm

    JC, question about the original. Is the red circular image a stamp from an ink pad? Or is this a color print from a computer image?

    Trying to decide whether the image in the center of the circle is significant. Could be just an ink blot that happens to look like a woman’s face in one orientation and an old, bald man when viewed upside down.

    BTW, if this is an elaborate Obsidian gag, you are soooo dead.

  13. Mark Smith on May 21st, 2008 11:45 pm

    I don’t have a printer, and turning my monitor around to try to read the letters is getting tiring. ;-)

    Has anyone been able to figure out what the letters from the red seal even are yet?

  14. Mark Smith on May 21st, 2008 11:50 pm

    I notice that there is a space between the red characters that is bigger than the others; I’d use this as a starting point when trying to read the letters.

    I also wonder whether there is any significants to the wider smear marks on the outer part of the seal, where it over laps the inner ring for example.

    The “tb” logo looks like a Japanese style “signature” block, who’s real name I can never remember. If I were a bettin’ man, I’d guess that was just the signature of the author of the puzzle and probably has little more significants than that.

  15. J.C. Hutchins on May 22nd, 2008 12:10 am

    You guys are rocking my world with your ideas! Please, keep ‘em coming. I’ll help with some of your questions, since I have the item.

    @BigDP and @Mad Marv: The “rice paper” is of heavier stock, and all of the ink — including the red seal — are professionally-printed. As slick as it is, it feels mass-produced, so we can assume I won’t be the only recipient of such a letter.

    @Kristin Mayo: I really like your idea, that the red characters could be read on different passes. Anyone tried that yet?

    I’m also with Mad Marv on wondering about the blots of red ink/wax/blood in the red seal’s center. Is it a stylized map of a country, with “islands”? Something else?

    Finally: This is not an OBSIDIAN promo gag. If it were, I’d probably so proud of myself, I’d be taking credit left and right. This hails from a stranger, folks.

  16. Geordon VanTassle on May 22nd, 2008 12:11 am

    At work and have not had time to consider this closely yet, but the image on the postage stamp and the image in the wax seal look to be identical to me.

    Mark Smith, I think the term that you’re searching for is “hanko”

  17. jddennis on May 22nd, 2008 12:15 am

    I think the black lettering looks like hieratic, which is the cursive form of hieroglyphics.

    I can see some cobras, an eye of horus, and a couple of reeds. Unfortunately, my memory of the hieroglyphic/hieratic alphabet is a bit skewed.

    I tried flipping the document around in photoshop. It didn’t seem to help too much.

  18. jiglenn on May 22nd, 2008 12:30 am

    Trying to separate the letters in the red seal. Printed it out layed it on light box. Problem. Lots of “o” squiggle and bat shapes bisecting what could be e’s or L’s. Found an odd one though. Look at the 2:00 position. Remove what looks like a y. Familiar?

  19. P.G. Holyfield on May 22nd, 2008 12:36 am

    You bringing this to balticon!? I hope so.

  20. Mark Smith on May 22nd, 2008 12:39 am

    If it is Hiragana, it’s _HEAVILY_ stylized. I’ve found a few Hiragana tables and while a few characters do look similar, I can’t find most of them. I also can’t find those characters in a Katakana table. So I’m guessing that Japanese is out.

    JD Dennis has it right. It looks _VERY_ much like the writing found in this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieratic

  21. Mark Smith on May 22nd, 2008 12:41 am

    JD Dennis has it right. The script looks _VERY_ much like the stuff found in Wikipedia under hieratic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieratic

  22. Mark Smith on May 22nd, 2008 12:48 am

    JD Dennis has it right. The script looks _VERY_ much like Hieratic. Check it out on Wikipedia; some of the examples there look very similar. (I can’t post a link here, apparently. Not surprising, I guess.)

  23. Geordon VanTassle on May 22nd, 2008 12:54 am

    Random thinking out-loud:

    Flip page so logo is at top? Mirror-image view with logo at top and again logo at bottom?

  24. Geordon VanTassle on May 22nd, 2008 1:03 am

    Additional synaptic static:

    Did the inner envelop have any markings, either inside or outside? Try looking at it at an angle to the light, look for compression marks (e.g pen/pencil) or surface imperfections that may be invisible ink. Same with the glassine (”rice paper” type) page.

    Try to take a rubbing from the inner envelope, too.

  25. Mark Smith on May 22nd, 2008 1:05 am

    Having posted that, there are a lot of characters on JC’s page that I can’t find translations for. Of course, I can’t claim that the reference I’m using is complete.

    Anyone else have any luck finding a more complete Hieratic translation table than the second link in Google when you search for “Hieratic”?

  26. J.C. Hutchins on May 22nd, 2008 1:09 am

    OK, I’m code-naming this rabbit hole RED SEAL, dig?

    I took another keen look at the full red seal photo, on page 4 of the PDF. I zoomed in. As I supposed in the video (and you guys have confirmed), there are highly-stylized English letters buried in the seal.

    I grabbed a pen and jotted down my interpretation of these designs as mashed-up letters. I suggest you do the same, and let’s compare notes.

    Starting at the “bottom” of the seal and going counter-clockwise, this is what I’m supposing I’m seeing:

    NO … EON … EN (?) … BED (8ED?) … SO … O3O (O3D?) … W? … ERM (ER3?) … VER … EVE … VIV (NIN?) … ANE … AN7 … XM … OR (OZ? OTZ?)

    You ARG fans might notice the “(NIN?)” interpretation I inserted above. While Nine Inch Nails released a “Year Zero” ARG last year, let’s not get hung up on the reference. I love NIN, but there will be no Reznor geeking! It’ll cloud the conversation! :D

    So, take a close look at that image again, try to extract letters, and post them here. Is there meaning to what I’ve found? Will there be meaning to what you find? Let’s dig deeper….

  27. J.C. Hutchins on May 22nd, 2008 1:20 am

    OK. Just “saw” something … or it might be my imagination. There may be a pattern to each cluster of characters in the red seal. Each cluster may contain THREE letters.

    For instance: I initially thought the first cluster was the word “NO.” But looking more carefully, there may be a capital “T” laying on its side there, bisecting the “O”. NOT, maybe?

    Perhaps extrapolating from that “three letter” rule might help. Then again, I could be seeing things… ;)

  28. J.C. Hutchins on May 22nd, 2008 1:26 am

    @Geordon VanTassle: The outer and inner envelopes are unremarkable. It’s clear that the “TB” logo and the contents on the paper are the showcase pieces here.

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  30. jddennis on May 22nd, 2008 1:37 am

    @Mark Smith:

    I think the hardest thing about the hieratic theory is that the writer can combine symbols. It’s both pictographic (like Chinese) and phonetic at the same time. We might be seeing some combinations of characters that are full words, and then some words being spelled out.

    Of course, Occham could be laughing at the idea while getting out his stropping strap.

  31. jiglenn on May 22nd, 2008 1:40 am

    Looks like jc is doing pretty much the same as me. Breaking out the letters is giving me some other ideas. This may be numeric combination. Any one try sounding some of these out. Because “no eon” could be ” no one”. “8ed” could be “ate” .

  32. Isabelle Hakala on May 22nd, 2008 4:56 am

    OK, so here are my thoughts so far… if the paper is seethrough, maybe you need to fold it so that the symbols overlap? I can’t print this out, but maybe someone else can try it. I would suggest folding down the center since there are 2 columns.

    Also, if there are three letters in each, it COULD be a bunch of 3 letter words, or it could be the kind of thing that you eliminate 2 of the three letters from each triad based on what letters are duplicated in the one before and after each triad:
    VER
    EVE
    MNE
    ENA
    For MNE you can eliminate the E from MNE and an E from EVE above it. And then from EVE you can eliminate the V from VER above it. Below MNE you can eliminate the Ns. That would leave you with (ER)-E-M-(EA) I can’t tell what all the letters are around the circle, but if they could be deciphered it is possible that this style of elimination might leave you with less letters to deal with, and might actually state something with the spaces missing.

    I hope this helps! I am greatly intrigued. -i

  33. m1xzg on May 22nd, 2008 5:44 am

    There is another reference to this mystery on google, if the URL I’m pasting doesn’t make it then search for:

    strange mail red seal tb

    http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2008/05/strange_mail.html

    The website is www yesbutnobutyes com

    They also got one of these in the post.

  34. zen_jewitch on May 22nd, 2008 6:34 am

    From Twitter:
    @JCHutchins very interesting video.. you aren’t alone apparently http://tinyurl.com/686g9b

    (link: http://twitter.com/m1xzg/statuses/817268712)

  35. 3rd Bob on May 22nd, 2008 6:53 am

    There is definitely something bigger afoot.

    Putting a few words relating to this puzzle (red seal, black envelope, tb) into Google led me to this blog entry:

    http://cactuspix.blogspot.com/2008/05/something-weird.html

    It describes the same kind of envelope that JC got, but the message contained therein is in yet another language.

    Definitely feels like an ARG. We might need to pull in the unForums on this.

  36. Selganor on May 22nd, 2008 7:17 am

    JC, you are not alone. Someone else recieved a black envelope with a red seal, too. The red circle on his message seems to be identical at first glance, but the text is a different script.
    Check it out at http://cactuspix.blogspot.com/2008/05/something-weird.html

  37. james on May 22nd, 2008 7:21 am

    anyone see roman numerals in the red stamp letters?

  38. Selganor on May 22nd, 2008 7:28 am

    Ignore my posting above, I didn’t see the other comments on that.

    But there seem to be some more versions around.

    All viewable at http://chishio.jp/

    There are people who think this may be viral marketing for the coming Mummy 3

  39. J.C. Hutchins on May 22nd, 2008 7:32 am

    Aha! You guys rock. We haven’t cracked the RED SEAL code, but thanks to your googling, we do know that at least two other people have received these letters, and are equally stumped.

    http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2008/05/strange_mail.html
    http://cactuspix.blogspot.com/2008/05/something-weird.html

    Thanks to @m1xzg and @3rd Bob for those finds! The other recipients received similar — but not identical — messages. The RED SEAL appears to be identical, but the “mail” language is completely different. Check out those links.

    So. Three letters featuring three possible ancient languages. Thoughts?

  40. 3rd Bob on May 22nd, 2008 7:42 am

    A bizarre connection that struck me.

    YBNBY is a popular pop-cult blog. The one I found seems to be related to video distribution over the web, and of course Hutch.

    Ancient languages, new media.

  41. zen_jewitch on May 22nd, 2008 8:03 am

    Looking at the collection of the various letters in one place, they all look like they’re different Fertile Crescent languages.

    We’ve got heiratic, cunieform of two types and one other, which I suspect is similar. I’ll post a “translation” of at least one of them within an hour or so.

  42. JR Merlin on May 22nd, 2008 8:14 am

    Frack! I’m stuck in a hotel all day, with nothing to do, and I wander across this, and I don’t have the one resource that could help (potentially)!

    http://chishio.jp/images/123_07.jpg That’s the 3rd from left on the master page, the one we have yet to see in the wild. That would appear to be runic in nature. Some characters are oh so very close to the standard Norse rune set, and here I am without my book.

  43. Nobilis on May 22nd, 2008 8:16 am

    Definitely Hieratic. I see an aleph, and a zain, surely.

  44. MacMoov on May 22nd, 2008 8:17 am

    You can always send an email to the domain contact. Or would that be considered cheating?

    http://whois.domaintools.com/chishio.jp

  45. zen_jewitch on May 22nd, 2008 8:26 am

    JR Merlin, those are defnitely not Norse (Elder FUTHARK) runes, nor Celtic. They REALLY look like later-era cunieform.

  46. JR Merlin on May 22nd, 2008 8:26 am

    Scratch that idea. There isn’t enough correlation between the runic alphabet and the image. Grr.

  47. Shua Mullikin on May 22nd, 2008 9:08 am

    The black text from th http://cactuspix.blogspot.com/2008/05/something-weird.html page is in Ugaratic and comes out as follows:

    NMS ‘ ZWH ‘ HDT
    MDN ‘ LDBDT
    DLN ‘ DD ‘ DLM

    Some of the letters are variations. to see my source, go to http://ancientscripts.com/ugaritic.html

    Now to find the yesbut… syllabary again

  48. Shua Mullikin on May 22nd, 2008 9:12 am
  49. JR Merlin on May 22nd, 2008 9:13 am

    Red seal letters:
    N T O
    E N O
    E A N
    S ? ? (maybe a T in there)
    S C O
    O D W
    O W ?
    E M R
    E R V
    E V E
    V E V (Not NIN, sadly, E is lying down, with a V on each end)
    A E N
    A N N (one N is upside down, at an angle)
    N ? ? (maybe an X and a T)
    O T N

  50. Shua Mullikin on May 22nd, 2008 9:17 am

    seems a comment got lost in the ether.
    Cactuspix black text is in Ugaratic and corresponds to the following letters:

    NMS ‘ ZWH ‘ HDT ‘
    MDN ‘ LDBDT ‘
    DLN ‘ DD ‘ DLM

    some letters are variations, but that’s the basics.
    go to http://ancientscripts.com/ugaritic.html to see alphabet.

  51. Shua Mullikin on May 22nd, 2008 9:26 am

    Language of 3rd image from http://chishio.jp/ closely related to Venetic and Etruscan, but neither is quite it

  52. J.C. Hutchins on May 22nd, 2008 9:26 am

    Another RED SEAL envelope has been spotted in the wild … and this one’s identical to the letter I received:

    http://forum.escapeartists.info/index.php?topic=1620.0

  53. JR Merlin on May 22nd, 2008 9:40 am

    @Shua Mullikin That rules out anagrams on that then. Distinct lack of vowels and all…

  54. Chip Burkhead on May 22nd, 2008 9:56 am

    The third letter looked to me like Aramaic or Old Hebrew. Neither Venetic or Etruscan seem to have a character that really looks like the 5th character in the letter. Both Aramaic and Old Hebrew do.

    Though the 7th character on the second line doesn’t seem to match a character in any of those four languages.

  55. N/A on May 22nd, 2008 10:03 am

    Chishio means blood in Japanese apparently.

  56. Shua Mullikin on May 22nd, 2008 10:13 am

    Hoping #3 on chishio.jp is an actual language, and not a mash-up of Early Phonecian and Venetic. Between the two, all characters are accounted for, but some characters appear in both and have different sounds. no luck so far finding a common descendant.

  57. Shua Mullikin on May 22nd, 2008 10:17 am

    @ JR Merlin
    Ugaratic is a Consonantal Alphabetic. the closest thing to a vowel is the ‘ . Though from what little I’ve found, it seems to be more of a breath mark or a pause.

  58. J.C. Hutchins on May 22nd, 2008 10:23 am

    On suggestion of @MacMoov, I checked the whois info for the domain.

    Email contact: chishio01@gmail.com
    Phone: +6469370339
    Address: 166-0002 (postal code) 3-43-13 Koenji-kita, Suginami-ku Tokyo

    I’ve sent an email to the address; no reply yet. Tried the phone number locally; non-working number. I’ll call the number in Japan when SkypeOut works for me.

    In the meantime … is there significance to the numbers themselves? Pattern?

  59. Shua Mullikin on May 22nd, 2008 10:25 am

    @Chip Burkhead letters 6-8 on line 2 seem to be variants on yod, mem, and qoph, respectively.

  60. ScreenRant.com on May 22nd, 2008 10:28 am

    I also received one of these letters yesterday and posted about it on my website, which is movie and TV related if that helps any.

    http://screenrant.com/archives/is-this-a-new-movie-viral-camp-1666.html

    Vic

  61. Brad P. from NJ on May 22nd, 2008 10:36 am

    Image 1 on http://chishio.jp is Akkadian. http://www.ancientscripts.com/akkadian.html

    It’s a syllabary, not a character for character representation.

    There’s a separate page for numbers, http://it.stlawu.edu/~dmelvill/mesomath/Numbers.html .

    I’m gonna look at it for a bit this am.

  62. kevin on May 22nd, 2008 10:58 am

    Another thought (and since I’m colorblind I really can’t tell)…but would a red filter placed over the images make the letters clearer?

    A little work in Photoshop with the red channel might DRAMATICALLY change the text.

  63. HereticChick on May 22nd, 2008 11:41 am

    Found this info on a website…regarding the address you located.
    Contact Information: [公開連絡窓口]
    [名前] Darkoogle Japan
    [Name] Darkoogle Japan
    [Email] info@darkoogle.com
    [Web Page]
    [郵便番号] 166-0002
    [住所] 東京都杉並区高円寺北3-43-13
    [Postal Address] 3-43-13 Koenji-kita
    Suginami-ku
    Tokyo
    [電話番号] 0423080268

  64. Vrijen on May 22nd, 2008 11:55 am
  65. jddennis on May 22nd, 2008 11:57 am

    Just some more of my 2 cents….

    I was looking at the writing at chisio.jp, and it looks like the alphabet second from the right may be Phoenician. As a reference, check out http://www.phoenician.org/alphabet_phoenician.GIF.

    Sorry I can’t help out more. Today’s an utter train wreck.

  66. 3rd Bob on May 22nd, 2008 12:12 pm

    I knew mentioning the unForums was a good idea. Pretty much all they do over there is solve puzzles like these.

    It helps that there’s a few BetaClones among them.

    Speaking of…this is like the puzzle solving scenes in the book - minus the shared memories, of course.

  67. Brad P. from NJ on May 22nd, 2008 12:15 pm

    Sent off an email to http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/nmcusa/Askstudent.html to see if they could clarify my latinization of the graphic 1.

    So far, we’ve got Akkadian, Dometic?, Phoenician, all fertile crescent stuff as previously noted. Intriguing. Maybe it’s an ARG mixing up the conflict in the Gulf?

  68. BigDP on May 22nd, 2008 12:25 pm

    hmm, mass produced mailers, stamps.com, being sent out to techies, I would bet that whoever is behind this wouldn’t go too far down a google list to have the custom wax stamp made… if someone was intrigued with some time to blow… I bet a couple of phone calls….

  69. PJ on May 22nd, 2008 1:13 pm

    http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2008/05/strange_mail.html

    Links to links led me to this - same campaign by the looks of it, but with a writing I recognize: Akkadian cuniform (archaeology geek, long story). I am working to translate that one - it has been a while - and will post findings later…unless someone beats me to it.

  70. suzy on May 22nd, 2008 1:22 pm

    I’m wondering about the connection between the different people who have received these letters. My husband got the one that appears on Cactus Pix. He’s an aspiring screenwriter. JC Hutchins is a writer, and it appears that a couple other people who received these are bloggers… is there a connection here?

  71. ScreenRant.com on May 22nd, 2008 1:40 pm

    Check this out, matches one of the cards:

    http://www.theology.edu/QHST/Images/ugar.gif

    Vic

  72. Mad Marv on May 22nd, 2008 2:15 pm

    Well, I’m not sure if this was a good idea or not, but I submitted the chishio.jp page to Digg and linked this page in the description.
    http://digg.com/odd_stuff/RED_SEAL_Alternate_Reality_Game_in_progress

    Digg it up and see if this rabbit hole has any legs.

  73. Brad P. from NJ on May 22nd, 2008 2:31 pm

    @Vrijen They’re all definitely related. The most matches came from comparison with the Akkadian, though. For me, the 12th character combination (looks like 3 horizontal flags and 4 triangles turned 45 degrees…) was the clincher.

    Now, I’m not a cunie/eiform expert. So, I sent off an email to a group of people who were… we’ll see if they get back to me.

  74. Brad P. from NJ on May 22nd, 2008 2:33 pm

    @pj : I’ve never formally studied the really old stuff, but I’ve always been a bit of an Egyptology geek (I have a rosetta stone paperweight on my desk even as I type) and the glyphs got me all shivery… “Wait! All those hours shan’t be wasted!!!”

    GO, EAGLE, GO!!!

  75. Trigger23 on May 22nd, 2008 2:39 pm

    I stumbled onto this site after my friend received the SAME letter (still doesn’t look like anyone has received (and posted) the fourth letter yet…. Anyhow, if you go to http://www.macopz.com/forum, it’s the only real active thread.

  76. Trigger23 on May 22nd, 2008 3:18 pm

    @kevin - The only results I could get in PS with JC’s images were improved contrast and clarity, and I got those largely by changing the blue and green channels…..

  77. Big-O on May 22nd, 2008 3:26 pm

    I ate at a Thai place today and I swear the black letters look like Thai or Lao.

    Also I’m going to manipulate the image a bit and see if I can come up with something helpful to others.

  78. baierman on May 22nd, 2008 3:46 pm

    2 of us over at YBNBY got the mailers. Both are different. One link has already been posted above, here’s the new one.

    http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2008/05/i_got_strange_m.html

    I suck at these decoding games but i did also notice there’s banners for this idea as well. They seem to be on tech sites (i saw one on gizmodo)

    http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2008/05/strange_mail_up.html

    Perhaps it’s a old media/new media promotion to hype a new game or movie. Others are speculating that it has something to do with Fangoria magazine since some people that got it are also subscribers. I am not a subscriber however.

  79. DANIEL on May 22nd, 2008 4:28 pm

    IS IT RELATED TO LOST? REMEBER THE PAGE THAT USED TO BE ONLINE FOR THE HANSO FOUNDATION? IF YOU RECALL WHEN YOU MOVED THE MOUSE OVER THE CORIDNATES THAT MATCHED THE COMBINATION FROM THE SHOW. IT DISPLAYED AN ISLAND THAT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE CENTER OF THE LOGO ON THE PAGE.

  80. Trigger23 on May 22nd, 2008 4:39 pm

    @ Big-O> It’s not Thai or Lao. it bears a stronger resemblance to Demotic, but I don’t think that’s it either…

  81. James Zahn on May 22nd, 2008 7:26 pm

    I received one of these notes today. Mine contains the note matching the text that is third from the left on the http://chishio.jp/ site.

    I’ll be posting images on my myspace blog at http://www.myspace.com/jameszahn shortly.

    Now I’m hunting for clues…

  82. James Zahn on May 22nd, 2008 8:36 pm
  83. Shane on May 22nd, 2008 9:16 pm

    K, so if J.C. is behind this, or a part of it, which is a suspicion I have… we must take note of one part of the video, where he says, “I’ll be tagging it… Red Seal… R-E-S-E-L.” Unless I missed something, we have a MAJOR inconsistency… i took a little trip down Google Lane and came up with…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resel

    Possible lead?

  84. Ari B. on May 22nd, 2008 9:20 pm

    Gorram.

    I read a very small amount of Ugaritic, once upon a time, for a biblical history class in university. One of the other pictures on Chishio definitely looked Akkadian.

  85. Shane on May 22nd, 2008 11:44 pm

    Guys, let’s try to centralize this investigation… it seems pretty scattered among blog comment boards and such. I started a thread on an ARG / viral site:

    http://www.immersionunlimited.com/index.php?topic=2900.0

  86. Jenny on May 23rd, 2008 1:46 am

    I don’t have time to actually get into this tonight, but figured I’d pass along a website that could be useful for identifying the scripts and then decoding them: http://www.omniglot.com

  87. Jedediah COy on May 23rd, 2008 5:13 am

    Here’s what I have so far from the red symbols.

    Each symbol is three letters, every occurrence of a letter seems to be an exact copy, although sometimes mirrored and/or rotated.

    The letter groups as far as I can tell are:

    NOT ONE SEN SEC SCO OMC OMR ERM ERV EEV ENV ENA ANN ANT NOT

    The Ms could be Ws. The letters are repeated in groups of three so the first three symbols contain N. The second through fourth contain E.

    If you continue the pattern (and wrap around the circle for the last two groups) you get:

    NESCOMREVENATO (or NESCOWREVENATO with W instead of M)

    I see several words:

    NES COM REVENATO
    NESCO MR E VENATO
    NESCO MR EVE NATO

    This could be an anagram.

  88. The Red Seal, Chishio or Down the Rabbit Hole | Stop Embarrassing Yourself on May 23rd, 2008 5:28 am

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  89. Lejon on May 23rd, 2008 5:57 am

    Has anyone attempted to decode the barcode on the stamp yet? It’s either Semacode or Data Matrix. Data Matrix is used by the USPS, but if it’s Semacode, that’s potentially 3k+ ASCII characters waiting to be unlocked. There are 2 different codes sequences sitting next to each other on the stamp. I don’t have anything that can read it, though, but there are reader programs available for cell phones available for free on the net.

    Unfortunately, I have no input on the translation of the other scripts. Other than to say that this looks like an extremely clever promotion, probably for a movie, targeted at known internet saavy marketeers.

    Naturally, I would like to know the outcome.

  90. james on May 23rd, 2008 6:19 am

    just an observation. where is the postal printing on the stamp or any where on the envelope?

  91. James Zahn on May 23rd, 2008 6:41 am

    Mine wasn’t postmarked at all, but it was in a larger outer envelope with an apology from the postmaster for delivering me “damaged mail”. The clear envelope with the stamp on it was torn on one side.

  92. James Zahn on May 23rd, 2008 6:50 am

    P.S. Ads featuring the same imagery and linking to the Japanese site are now being distributed via Google’s adsense. I’ve posted a screenshot of a leaderboard ad from horror.com on my myspace blog.

  93. Jordan on May 23rd, 2008 2:43 pm

    Seems like there’s been a breakthrough, someone has decoded the message (see http://www.immersionunlimited.com/index.php?topic=2900.0) And the Red Circle is decoded to: revenantones.com, which had the tb logo… When I visited the site, there seems to be a countdown timer… with just over 6 hours left until it hits zero…

  94. Jordan on May 23rd, 2008 2:55 pm

    Another thought: Could the script message be the username/password to enter beyond the countdown timer?

  95. Brad P. from NJ on May 23rd, 2008 4:19 pm

    So, apparently the chair on the site is driven from UStream.

    http://www.ustream.tv/flash/live/184835

  96. ScreenRant.com on May 23rd, 2008 4:21 pm

    BIG new clues on my site:

    http://screenrant.com/archives/is-this-a-new-movie-viral-camp-1666.html

    Including a hidden phrase, references to a new name and the logo for Revenant Ones.

    Vic

  97. ScreenRant.com on May 23rd, 2008 4:49 pm

    MYSTERY SOLVED!!

    See the link above. It’s about a new HBO vampire series called “True Blood.”

    Vic

  98. J.C. Hutchins on May 23rd, 2008 4:55 pm

    ROCK ON!!!! THRILLED to see the mystery’s been hacked, slashed and solved. Too cool. Thanks, everyone, for lending a hand here. And ScreenRant.com — thanks for sharing the good news!

  99. BloodCopy » Blog Archive » Mysteries Abound on May 23rd, 2008 8:47 pm

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  100. ScreenRant.com on May 23rd, 2008 9:31 pm

    The countdown on http://revenantones.com has ended and there’s some hottie there on webcam but there’s no audio although it seems like there should be.

    Pretty lame and unprofessional IMHO after all the excitement and mystery.

  101. Brad P. from NJ on May 23rd, 2008 9:43 pm

    Nice. Snooty chick on the other end of the line. I’m just another stupid, blood-copy person… Guess I’m not worthy of the ARG. If someone gets in, I would like to know what’s on the other side. Kind of a letdown… Oh, well. Life resumes it’s normalcy.

  102. Zen_Jewitch on May 23rd, 2008 9:49 pm

    Click on the queue button, and you’ll enter the wait to speak to the hottie. She’s the GateKeeper, and it seems that you need to read her the translated letter.

  103. ScreenRant.com on May 23rd, 2008 9:51 pm

    Yeah, well.. . somebody let us know how it turns out.

    Vic

  104. Kevin on May 23rd, 2008 9:56 pm

    Got to the head of the queue…she could hear me (she held up two fingers when I asked), but I couldn’t hear her. She hung up.

    A friend was on Skype with me when I went on (possibly the reason I couldn’t hear her). He got on with her, told her that I had a question for her and asked how I should get in. She said, “That’s not my problem.”

    Hmmm….wonder what the magic phrase is?

  105. Kevin on May 23rd, 2008 10:35 pm

    She just said that she has granted a couple of people access to the site…”they must have said something that you didn’t.”

  106. Photojoe on May 23rd, 2008 11:12 pm

    So, it’s clearly not over. What’s the deal with the lady?

  107. Photojoe on May 23rd, 2008 11:23 pm

    This is something going on in real time, it’s a shame moderation is limiting how we can communicate here.

  108. The Thought Plickens | Stop Embarrassing Yourself on May 24th, 2008 5:31 am

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  109. james on May 24th, 2008 8:17 am

    the timer is back up. it will run down at 9′o’clock est tonight. we will see then

  110. Rhoswen on May 24th, 2008 11:12 am

    A post from the Charlaine Harris (she’s the author of the “Southern Vampire” books that True Blood the series is based on) message board led me here. I can’t read ancient languages, but I’ve read all of the books in the Southern Vampire series (except for the most recent one that just came out a few days ago). If there are any questions that the girl at revenantones.com asks that I might be able to help answer, let me know.

  111. Rhoswen on May 24th, 2008 11:28 am

    I don’t know if it’s useful or not, but here’s a link to the thread I followed at Charlaine Harris’ board. My post there contains links to casting notices that I found online for a True Blood “internet project” (probably what we’re all trying to figure out the clues for) and the casting notices could provide hints for what may play out at revenantones.com and any other show-related web sites like bloodcopy.com. Blood Copy is mentioned in the casting notices. I’ll check back here after the timer runs out tonight and let you know if I was able to get in.

  112. Rhoswen on May 24th, 2008 11:29 am

    I don’t know if it’s useful or not, but here’s a link to the thread I followed at Charlaine Harris’ board. My post there contains links to casting notices that I found online for a True Blood “internet project” (probably what we’re all trying to figure out the clues for) and the casting notices could provide hints for what may play out at revenantones.com and any other show-related web sites like bloodcopy.com. Blood Copy is mentioned in the casting notices. I’ll check back here after the timer runs out tonight and let you know if I was able to get in.

    http://charlaineharris.master.com/texis/master/search/showmsg.html?id=48380e0110&Catid=457073b03#m48380e0110

  113. Rhoswen on May 24th, 2008 11:37 am

    Sorry for the duplicate post, but I’m a doofus and forgot the link in my second post.

  114. Jedediah Coy on May 24th, 2008 2:45 pm

    Rhoswen, the gate keeper at RevenantOnes.com keeps asking why we think we’re worthy to have access to the site. Any ideas?
    Also, you might want to join us at Unfiction:
    http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25684

  115. Rhoswen on May 24th, 2008 3:34 pm

    Why you think you’re worthy to have access? I can’t remember any questions about worthiness being asked in the books. Maybe the answer is in the 4 coded messages, like a password. Or maybe you could get in if you say that you’ve got some TruBlood (that’s a synthetic blood that vampires can drink instead of real blood). I’ll go check out the discussion at unfiction.com - thanks.

  116. anonymous on May 24th, 2008 10:16 pm

    because your the keymaster? you know like in ghostbusters?

  117. Ken Raymond on May 24th, 2008 10:33 pm

    I got one of these letters, too. The lettering in mine appears to be a form of cuneiform, possibly Hittite. My wife and I have been trying to decipher it, to no avail. Until we found this site and one other, we thought it was some sort of elaborate birthday greeting; the letter arrived on my b-day.

  118. Nycteris on May 25th, 2008 10:50 pm

    I am seeing “your” red-seal and text graphic and a link to chishio.jp as a sidebar on lifehacker now.

    Sorry if someone already mentioned this.

  119. Impel Down » Blog Archive » ARG… matey on May 26th, 2008 2:36 am

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  120. Lejon on May 26th, 2008 3:12 am

    Wow, I stop paying attention for a couple days, and suddenly there’s a website, but people still haven’t quite figured out what this is.

    Of course, Neither have I.

    I did check out bloodcopy.com where they’re showing a video split-screen of the woman doing the gatekeeping and a caller. It appears that she’s looking for something specific (Yes, probably in the encoded dead languages.) Has anyone attempted to actually translate these letter for letter? You know, use simple cryptography with the phonetics to match letter for letter?

    Ok, I suppose I should try that myself. So, I’ll practice violin first, then apply gray-matter to the problem.

    Let me know if someone solves it.

  121. The Mystery of the Red Seal Letters on May 26th, 2008 6:13 pm

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  122. Dawn Krantz on May 26th, 2008 11:52 pm

    O.K. I have received the EXACT same letter as you have (the envelope and everything) and it freaked me out for a little bit. I am a Law Enforcement Officer and I am not in the entertainment business. Sooooooooo What do I have in common with you? I subscribe to Fangoria magazine and that’s it. Do you subscribe there?

  123. What Is "TB" And Who Are The Revenant Ones? on May 28th, 2008 8:48 am

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  124. darkvampiricprincess on May 28th, 2008 11:21 pm

    how about put it under blacklight and see what comes up or different kinds of light to see is something is hidden?

  125. Aticus vôn Draven on May 30th, 2008 3:46 am

    the language it is written in is called Akkadian cuneiform. revenantones.com has the same exact “TB” logo in their address bar as well as on a “vial” of synthetic human blood. TB stands for “TruBlood” which, True Blood is the name of a new HBO series premiering in September of this year, which ironicly has a synthetic blood in it called True Blood which allows Vampires to bypass the feeding of humans. The series is to be based of some novels by Charlaine Harris.

    The forums of the Revenant Ones seems to be passed off as a legit forum as some of the members have hundreds if not thousands of posts, however it can also be said that it is a mere publicity stunt to get people to watch the series, in either case i will be watching it, as well as keeping tabs on the events of “TB” for myself, as well as everyone of you here. I am about to open up a forum on my website dedicated to the keeping of ever one posted and up to date.

    I hope this info helps people.

  126. Jothebulb on June 13th, 2008 8:18 pm

    http://www.charlaineharris.com/trueblood_press.html

    The source code of the .jp page points to an upcoming HBO series.

  127. Trekkie on June 16th, 2008 11:35 am

    Agreed. The source on the Chishio.jp page has some big clues in it (found this before I read all the posts and am just confirming above post).
    __________________________________________________

    <!–
    s.pageName=”HBO: True Blood: Pre-Premiere: Chishio”
    s.server=”hbo.com”
    s.channel=”"
    s.pageType=”"
    s.prop1=”HBO” // channel
    s.prop2=”Original Series” // category
    s.prop3=”True Blood” // show
    s.prop4=”Chishio” // content
    s.prop5=”" // subcontent
    s.prop6=”" // season
    s.prop7=”" // episode
    s.prop8=”" // actor
    s.prop9=”" // special
    s.prop10=”"
    s.prop11=”"
    s.prop12=”"
    s.prop13=”"
    s.prop14=”"
    s.prop15=”"
    /* E-commerce Variables */
    s.campaign=”"
    s.state=”"
    s.zip=”"
    s.events=”"
    s.products=”"
    s.purchaseID=”"
    s.eVar12=”"
    s.eVar13=”"
    s.eVar14=”"
    s.hier1=”HBO|Original Series|True Blood|Pre-Premiere|Chishio”
    s.hier2=”HBO Global|” + s.hier1;

  128. Katra on June 22nd, 2008 7:54 am

    Anyone notice the new tatoo that Angelina drew on Brad Pitts back? Arkkadian?

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